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post Oct 26 2004, 06:06 AM
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cate din evenimentele care v-au afectat viata au fost "mana destinului" si cate au fost influentate de actiunile voastre?
poate fi destinul facut vinovat de toate esecurile noastre?
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post Oct 26 2004, 07:01 AM
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Sunt adept convins al sintagmei "destinul si-l face omul cu mana lui". Daca toata lumea si-ar cunoaste destinul batut in cuie dinainte, atunci care ar mai fi rostul vietii?


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post Oct 26 2004, 07:14 AM
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sunt de acord cu tine, cum ca multe lucruri depind de noi, dar totusi, sunt anumite evenimente din viata noastra pe care nu le putem controla.
aici eu cred ca e vorba de destin
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post Oct 26 2004, 08:31 AM
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si totusi unele lucruri se intampla si nu poti schimba nimic
chiar daca am visat ca se va intampla ceva rau, ca am sa-mi pierd tatal
a doua zi dim am uitat, am plecat la facultate la ultimul examen din acel an
cand am venit acasa am aflat vestea
si abia at mi-am amintit

si nu e prima data cand am anumite vise prevestitoare, sau visez pe cate cineva, si se intampla ca acel cineva sa treaca prin momente dificile atunci

uneori poti sa provoci destilul, sa ti-l mai faci si cu mana ta
alteori nu depinde de tine
as da orice sa fi putut schimba acea zi (IMG:/sad.gif)
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post Oct 26 2004, 08:42 AM
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imi pare rau pentru visul tau. si orice as adauga acum e de prisos.
si mie mi s-a intamplat povestea asta cu visul, desi in general incerc sa nu ma gandesc la vise si nu le povestesc niciodata.
asa cum am mai spus, cred ca destinul joaca rolul lui in viata noastra.
cat de mare sau de mic, asta nu mai stiu.
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post Oct 26 2004, 09:00 AM
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Nush, daca sa cred in destin. Ar insemna ca totul este scris undeva sa se intample intr-un anumit fel. Daca as crede asta atunci ar insemna sa nu mai fac nimik, sa nu mai lupt pt nimic fiindca oricum nu conteaza si se va intampla asa cum este scris sa se intample.
Daca acceptam ideea de destin atunci acceptam si ideea existentei cuiva sau a ceva care scrie cum sa se intample aceste lucruri shi daca acceptam asta ...iarasi nu vad rostul existentei noastre, suntem doar marionete care actioneaza conform unui plan bine stabilit? Atunci inseamna ca nu suntem responsabili de faptele noastre iar criminalii nu sunt cu nimic mai rai decat noi ei doar implinindu-si destinul.
Cred mai degraba ca facem parte dintr-un program (cum ar fi Basic-ul), ceva de genul unei scheme logice. Sunt anumite puncte fixe pe care daca le atingem atunci ceva anume trebuie sa se intample, depinde de noi ce drum alegem shi prin ce puncte trecem dar....cum aceste lucrurin ne sunt necunoscute, nu stim niciodata ce ar trebui sa alegem ca sa ajungem la capat pe drumul optim.
Sau poate...poate suntem ca un joc Pac-Man. Suntem lasatzi intr-un anumit timp shi un anumit spatziu shi trebuie sa indeplinim anumite sarcini ca sa trecem la un nivel cat mai inalt, avem 3 incercari shi daca nu reushim sa terminam jocul o luam de la capat (shi aici ar interveni reincarnarea). Pacat ca spre deosebire de Pac-Man noi nu stim exact unde trebuie sa ajungem shi de ce trebuie sa ne ferim....Uneori cred ca suntem doar obiectul distractziei sau poate studiului unor entitatzi mult mai evoluate....Alte ori cred ca suntem doar nishte animalutze primitive evoluate dintr-un amalgam de elemente, poate ca Darwin avea dreptate si atunci....nu mai exista nici un Destin, ci doar noi. Nici nu stiu cum ar fi mai rau...Daca Darwin a intuit bine....atunci suntem prea singuri.....daca suntem doar niste instrumente create spre amuzamentul altor fiintze...atunci suntem totzi niste bancuri, unele mai bune altele mai proaste dar in orice caz...simpli soareci de laborator intr-un imens labirint cu porti de genul : IF A=B , THEN GO TO X ; IF A>B, THEN GO TO Y....etc


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post Oct 26 2004, 01:37 PM
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Anaisse,
Pana acum vreo sapte ani as fi fost inclinat sa nu cred in destin si sa spun ca "destinul si-l faureste omul cu mana lui. De cand am cunoscut-o pe Aura (sotia mea) nu mai sunt atat de sigur. Sansa de a ne intalni era ceva in genul 1 la mie !


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post Oct 26 2004, 01:40 PM
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Mdea...am patzit si eu chestii de-astea imposibile, shi bune shi rele exact ca in filmele cu....sa ma scuzati, prosti.


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post Nov 3 2004, 11:49 AM
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Vrei sa ne spui care anume ? I'm a good listener (except for Jazz.. oops ! I did it again !)


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post Nov 3 2004, 03:38 PM
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Eh, nush daca e legat de destin dar apropos de sansa 1 la 100. de ex. eu aveam nush cate bluze (multe), le tzineam acolo in dulap spalate, calcate...cu cate una ma imbracam o data la 2 luni. ciudat este ca daca dadea sora-mea iama in dulapul meu shi lua una din ele pey in ziua aia exact cu aia voiam sa ma imbrac shi nu o gaseam. saraca era exasperata, nu stia cum fac mereu de stiu care lipseste "Fata da ce le faci, le numeri in fiecare zi? Le-ai facut fisa de magazie, cum iti dai sema?".


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post Nov 4 2004, 06:47 AM
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Trebuia sa-i raspunzi: "meeyyy, am ochiul format, meeyyy!" (IMG:/laugh.gif)


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post Nov 14 2004, 04:11 AM
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Destinul e doar o preconceptie umana.
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post Nov 14 2004, 08:01 AM
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sau altfel spus "ce-si face omul cu mana lui....."

A nu se interpreta sau confunda cu...chestii sexoase
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post Nov 14 2004, 08:10 AM
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sau altfel spus "ce-si face omul cu mana lui....."
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Exact.
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post Nov 15 2004, 09:57 AM
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Ce-si face omul cu mana lui ...

Se numeste lucru manual ! (IMG:/laugh.gif)
Destinul te duce in fata unor intersectii in drumul vietii tale. Pe care din drumuri o apuci este alegerea ta, dar intersectiile nu sunt aceleasi pentru toti ! Asa ca, sorry, dar chestia cu destinul e valabila !


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post Nov 15 2004, 12:31 PM
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Destinul te duce in fata unor intersectii in drumul vietii tale
Asa ca, sorry, dar chestia cu destinul e valabila !
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Nu te duce nicaieri... te duci tu nu te aduce cineva nu iti serveste la tava 8)
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post Nov 15 2004, 12:44 PM
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Chiar crezi chestia asta ? Eu n-as fi atat de sigur, mi s-au intamplat prea multe ca sa nu cred in destin !


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post Nov 15 2004, 12:56 PM
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Da, normal. Altfel ar insemna ca lumea e plina de marionete :?
Si eu unul nu ma simt marioneta...
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post Nov 15 2004, 12:59 PM
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Nu de marionete ci de SIM-si ! (IMG:/laugh.gif) Eu unul ma simt asa ceva !


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post Nov 15 2004, 01:07 PM
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Unii se simt, altii nu... :wink:
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